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Old 20-Feb-2010, 11:51 PM (23:51)     1        37164
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I'm reading the SEP's Naturalism article, and whoever wrote it keeps mentioning "moral facts" I don't understand what is meant. Is it in the sense that good,evil, etc is a fact (i.e. that "goodness" is indeed something that exists)?

Note that I don't think that the article means that objective/factual=absolute.
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What a "moral fact" is depends on who is talking about them.

In objective moralism --- do NOT confuse with the Objectivism of Ayn Rand, small-o objectivism just means any school of ethics that holds there is some truly objective morality (for more definitions and explanations, see here), then "moral facts" are spoken of.

For example, under such a school, you could say the statement, "Murder is wrong", or "Thou shalt not kill", is a moral fact.

I would say of course that the term "moral fact" is a highly confused and misleading term. There are no such things as moral facts in my view. "Facts" is a term only suitable for empirical epistemology, in my view.

I am not totally "anti-realist". I act as if there was an objective morality. I act as if --- or at least, most of the time I try very hard to act as if --- there was an objective morality, only I realise that I myself must build it for myself, just as I myself must take full moral and other responsibility for all my actions.
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So, in your view, when the article mentions moral facts, it might as well say moral judgments or propositions, correct? If so, then I get what is meant and can carry on reading. It's very interesting stuff.
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Indeed to both.
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I would say of course that the term "moral fact" is a highly confused and misleading term. There are no such things as moral facts in my view. "Facts" is a term only suitable for empirical epistemology, in my view.

I am not totally "anti-realist". I act as if there was an objective morality. I act as if --- or at least, most of the time I try very hard to act as if --- there was an objective morality, only I realise that I myself must build it for myself, just as I myself must take full moral and other responsibility for all my actions.

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